Silence Is Garbage



Did they really think no one would mind? Is this type of thing really OK, all of a sudden? You know what I'm talking about, right? Silent Night Deadly Night Part 2 and all it's shortcomings. Or one really long one. But hey! If one enjoys the first installment, is it really a flaw? Yeah, it's a flaw, but if you haven't seen it in a while, maybe it's not so bad. Yeah, most of the first 40 minutes of this sequel consists of flashbacks from the original which has it labeled a joke for all time. And rightfully so. That's actually pretty uncool to be honest, but this film is a joke for more reasons than the obvious. What about Eric Freeman? Clearly, this guy makes it all an even bigger joke. But one worthy of developing a following over time, which could be compared to that of The Room or Troll 2. Why? Cuz Freeman's acting was shit? Yeah, that, and several other things we'll get into today. However, we're in on the joke or we at least wish we were. Either way, it's garbage day!

Ricky has been in a foul mood as of late. You can tell by the look on his face. Or I guess that's just the way his face is, but one can easily assume Ricky isn't having the greatest day. Well, whatever his problem is, the fact that they won't let him leave the insane asylum doesn't help. Is Ricky insane? Does he belong here? Personally, I don't see how. Just because he's a big enough asshole to kill a bunch of people does not mean he's crazy... does it? No, not really, and just because his brother, Billy, would have ended up here, had he lived, does not mean this muscle-bound prick deserves the same special treatment. But yeah. This guy's older brother dressed up like Santa and killed a bunch of people years ago due to their parents being murdered by a bad guy. Said bad guy happened to be dressed as Santa, and, well, you know how it goes. Billy was scarred because he saw it all go down. Fine, but Ricky was practically a newborn, but here he is, not even pretending to be crazy, really. Still insisting he remembers the events of that night. It was never touched on, but I'm thinking Ricky must have gotten himself one hell of a Lawyer to end up in this place. Just my opinion.

Yeah, get the fuck out of here! This guy looks more like a smart ass rapist with a negative attitude than a psychotic killer, but ok. Today, Ricky is being forced to talk to a psychiatrist who is insisting Ricky tells his story. Oh, he does that, but first, he's going to spend literally the first half of the movie telling us Billy's story. Probably just to be a dick. And half the info he gives up are things he has no way of knowing because he was either too young or just plain not there. Ricky jerks us around for exactly 40 minutes on the dot, which I found odd. I'd say we got about 1/4 of the first movie in those 40 minutes, and I don't know really what else to say about it. It is what it is.

And finally, some flashbacks we haven't seen: After Billy was gunned down, Ricky went on to experience a seemingly normal childhood, getting adopted by a nice enough couple who aren't particularly fond of Christmas. Now that we're in the Ricky Flashbacks, somehow, it feels like we're still watching scenes from another movie, but maybe that's a good thing? A somewhat normal next few years for Ricky, but as he reaches adulthood, he gets it in his head more and more that it's ok to fuck people up if they more or less deserve it, or if there happens to be nearby violence already going on.

Ricky's girlfriend definitely didn't deserve it, but she pissed him off by not being happy about him killing her ex. And that's pretty much IT for Ricky. The girlfriend was all that was keeping him from reaching full-blown douchebag mode. Now that she's gone, we witness five of the most epic minutes in 80's Horror history. A scene that seems like the entire movie was leading up to, as Ricky goes on a little shooting spree, sarcastically screaming "Garbage Day!" at some guy before blowing him away. The actor then almost gets killed right in the middle of all this due to not getting out of the way of a car that flipped over, but that's neither here nor there. Ricky says a lot of funny shit, attempts suicide, fails, and here we are... And there Ricky goes! Escaped from the asylum just like that. Now hell bent on killing Mother Superior from the first movie because she was a dick to Billy. At least we finally have an idea as to where this movie is headed, though we're just about done here.

This is one of those rare bad ones that I started out hating, but ended up loving as I got a little older. You can't blame one for only noticing the obvious and hating the film for it. There is a lot to be said about all the other flaws which becomes more obvious with repeated viewings. Ultimately, this is just such a damn fine example of so bad it's good 80's Horror, it's not even funny. Eric Freeman does a spectacular job at being entertaining and nothing else, but that's all we really needed him for. This sequel is, for sure, a downgrade from the original, which is also cheesy in its own right, but a movie that can be taken far more seriously. While it IS hard to take this one half as seriously, think about this for a minute: What if there was no original? What if the Silent Night Deadly Night series began here? What if those flashbacks all belonged to this movie alone? Exactly! We would have one hell of an epic story on our hands that would be remembered as much more than the scene-stealing joke that it is. Perhaps that's all it would take for the nay sayers to give it a break and focus on what's really important, here... GARBAGE DAY!!! 5/10




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Vote for the Best! Round 4

Okay since it's going to be super busy the next few days, I will go a head and put up round 4.

Halloween(2018) vs It(2017)

This will stay open until after Christmas

Vote for the best! Round 3

Okay, round two is still going on, but i am posting round 3:

Greenroom vs Bone Tomahawk.

Open until after Christmas! Once round 2 closes I will add the winner.

Advancing:
It Follows

Vote for the best! Round 2

The Next battle will be between:
Hereditary vs. MidSommar.

Pick the on you like the best!

Advancing to semi-Finals
Round 1: It Follows!

Horror Draft 2019 Sign Up

I don't think there is much explaining to do with this one. Sign up to list your favorite horror flicks. Beware when someone else takes a movie you had in mind, you have to consider another choice. So it's best to have a good amount of spare choices. Users like sfpx and Gymno don't really have to worry as they often go for such obscure stuff that no one else would consider.

Once the list is ready (I suggest we go to 20 movies) the KO phase can begin where each list is set up against each other. The winner can brag for a full year he/she has the best (or the worst it's all subjective of course) taste in horror.


Participants:

markus-san

1. The Exorcist (1973)
2. Alien (1979)
3. Don't Look Now (1973)
4. Eyes Without A Face (1960)
5. Suspiria (1977)
6. The Haunting (1963)
7. Onibaba (1964)
8. Jaws (1975)
9. Night of the Living Dead (1968)
10. Rosemary's Baby (1968)
11. Audition (1999)
12. Gremlins (1984)
13. Ginger Snaps (2001)
14. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)
15. Psycho (1960)


sfpx

1. Return of the Living Dead (1985)
2. Dawn of the Dead (1978)
3. Day of the Dead (1985)
4. Tenebrae (1982)
5. Night of the Demons (1988)
6. An American Werewolf in London (1981)
7. Demons (1985)
8. Beyond the Darkness (1979)
9. Silent Night, Deadly Night (1984)
10. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (1986)
11. Street Trash (1987)
12. Tombs of the Blind Dead (1972)
13. Burial Ground (1981)
14. Near Dark (1987)
15. The Toxic Avenger (1984)

Ballz

1. The Shining (1980)
2. The Thing (1982)
3. Evil Dead II (1987)
4. Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
5. From Beyond (1986)
6. Sleepaway Camp (1983)
7. Psycho II (1983)
8. Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986)
9. The Blob (1988)
10. Night of the Creeps (1986)
11. Basket Case (1982)
12. Videodrome (1983)
13. Opera (1987)
14. Motel Hell (1980)
15. Chopping Mall (1986)

Znep27

1. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)
2. Hellraiser (1987)
3. Re-Animator (1985)
4. Dead Alive (1992) aka Braindead
5. The Burning (1981)
6. Excision (2012)
7. Phenomena (1985)
8. May (2002)
9. The Fly (1986)
10. Intruder (1989)
11. Planet Terror (2007)
12. Starry Eyes (2014)
13. The Exorcist III (1990)
14. Big Bad Wolves (2013)
15. Headless (2015)

Gymnopedie

1. The Addiction (1995)
2. Martin (1977)
3. Spring (2014)
4. The Ninth Configuration (1980)
5. Messiah of Evil (1973)
6. Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988)
7. I Zombie: The Chronicles of Pain (1998)
8. Sole Survivor (1984)
9. Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989)
10. The Mothman Prophecies (2002)
11. Terrified (2017)
12. Circle (2015)
13. Man Bites Dog (1992)
14. Ju-on (2000)
15. Anatomy (2000)

Box_a_Hair

1. Ilsa: She-Wolf of the SS (1975)
2. Dark Night of the Scarecrow (1981)
3. Creepshow (1982)
4. The Slumber Party Massacre (1982)
5. Pet Sematary (1989)
6. Bloodsucking Freaks (1976)
7. Maniac (1980)
8. Army of Darkness (1992)
9. Gutterballs (2008)
10. Wolf Creek 2 (2013)
11. The Devils Rain (1975)
12. I Spit on Your Grave (2010)
13. Friday the 13th Part 3 (1982)
14. Phantasm (1979)
15. High Tension (2003)

Tommix

1. Demons 2 (1986)
2. Omen 2 (1978)
3. Cemetery Man (1994)
4. Blood Diner (1987)
5. Halloween 3: Season of the Witch (1982)
6. Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives (1986)
7. The Fog (1980)
8. Pumpkinhead (1988)
9. Trollhunter (2010)
10. Equinox (1970)
11. Angel Heart (1987)
12. Silent Hill (2006)
13. Them! (1954)
14. Return of the Living Dead 3 (1993)
15. Fright Night (1985)

Snowy_Owl

1. A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
2. A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987)
3. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992)
4. Trick 'r Treat (2007)
5. Halloween (1978)
6. Happy Death Day (2017)
7. It Follows (2014)
8. The Devil's Rejects (2005)
9. It: Chapter 1 (2017)
10. The Frighteners (1996)
11. The Final Girls (2015)
12. Scream 4 (2011)
13. Ready or Not (2019)
14. Doctor Sleep (2019)
15. Terrifier (2016)


~~Basic_Username

1.
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3.
4. Jennifer's Body (2009)
5. Halloween 2 (1981)
6. A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge (1985)
7.
8. Hush (2016)~~
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11.
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15.


Der_Tables

~~1. Megan is Missing (2011)
2.
3.
4. The Girl Nextdoor (2007)
5. Pet Semetary 2 (1992)
6. New Nightmare (1994)
7.
8. The Evil Dead (19xx)~~
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11.
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14.
15.
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Bambithedeer**

1. Candyman (1992)
2. Midsommar (2019)
3. Killer Klowns from outer space (1988)
4. My Bloody Valentine (1981)
5. Sleepaway Camp II (1988)
6. The Wicker Man (1973)
7. Scream (1996)
8. The Babadook (2014)
9. The silence of the lambs (1991)
10. Black Christmas (1974)
11. Beetlejuice (1988)
12. They Live (1988)
13. Hereditary (2018)
14. Happy Death Day 2u (2019)
15. Behind the mask: The rise of Leslie Vernon (2006)


Johan_WoW

1. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)
2. Carrie (1976)
3. A Quiet Place (2018)
4. Blood Feast 2: All U can Eat (2002)
5. Trauma (2017)
6. Dolls (1987)
7. Frankenhooker (1990)
8. The Invisible Man (1933)
9. The Tingler (1959)
10. Black Sunday (1960)
11. Cat People (1942)
12. Alice, Sweet Alice (1976)
13. Spider Baby (1967)
14. Yummy (2019)
15. FleashEater (1988)

All I got for Christmas...



...is the sexiest damn sequin pillow you'll ever find.

 Vote for the best! 

Since this decade is coming to a close, the next game of Vote for the Best will focus on only horror movies from the 2010s. However, instead of voting from a whole list of movies at once, this time movies will face off against each other one at a time until one movie remains. I have chosen four movies and Ballz has chosen 4.
First round is going to be: The Babadook vs. It Follows


Each poll will be open for 24 hours! Have fun! And remember, vote for which one you like the best, not which one you think will win!

Christmas Mini-Challenge

Coinciding with this month's 80s challenge, I'm also in the mood to splurge on some Christmas mayhem. I quite enjoyed that Christmas challenge back when Onyx hosted it, so I'm bringing it back, albeit in shorter form.

From Wednesday, December 18th to Tuesday, December 31st... that's when you're encouraged to binge your Christmas movies. This sort of thing can stack with the 80s challenge quite nicely, so keep that in mind when you watch your XMAS jargon.

It probably wont be a runtime thing, but rather a points for this or that. I'll have that posted shortly. Ideas are welcome.

SNDN2: Perfect Trash

Silent Night, Deadly Night... Part 2! Here's a movie that makes you wonder wtf was going through their minds when they made this turkey. This is probably only the second time I've watched this movie, but I liked it more this time around. There's something about that 80s cheese factor that makes this piece of shit endearing.

I watched the first movie earlier for some Xmas points, then I watched this one and got nearly the same amount of points for it, because 50% of this movie is flashbacks. Our hero Ricky seems to remember all sorts of things he wasn't around for, as well as stuff that happened when he was an infant. I think that aspect of the narrative is pretty hilarious. Very poorly thought out.

So Ricky is whining to his therapist and recalls a lot of Billy's kills from the first one. Basically all of them. It's a sloppy rehash of the first movie, but then the second movie actually starts... and it's pretty fucking dumb.


Ricky goes on about his sob story, but the whole time, this asshole seems very smug in how crazy and fucked up he is. He thinks he's a lot cooler than he is, but somehow, he manages to get the women anyway. Probably because of his muscles. His girl Jennifer is pretty hot and mostly understanding of him, but he ruins that pretty quickly as he can't control his impulse to kill and goes on a suburban killing spree with a gun for no good reason. Then after a while, he gets himself in prison and escapes only to don that Santa suit and attack mother superior, who has a moldy face now for some reason.

Who knows what they were thinking when they made this. They thought a lot of flashbacks would be a good idea. They thought an arrogant tool like Ricky would be a formidable villain. They took all the Christmas atmosphere out of this Christmas slasher and turned it into an abomination. Too bad it's still better than some of the sequels...

What a dumb movie. I give it a 5 out of 5.

Drama: A staple of Trash Epics

I notice a lot of people are arguing. We have different personality types on here, and some can be grating to others, while others will resonate like no other. Personally, I like everyone on here. In some way or another, I think that everyone on here has some sort of charm to them, be it epic or minute. After all, we all came on here because we had one of the following interests: the imdb message boards, the horror board more specifically, or the site admin guilt tripped you into joining. Either way, I attribute that to the site having some sort of merit. Some have taken a vague look and walked the other way. Others have seen that maybe... just maybe... we're onto something.

Trash Epics stands for a lot of things. I've rambled on about what it means to me, but everyone here has to think about what it means for them. What do they want out of it? That's what I would like to know. That's what I want to be able to provide on here, but I'm not the best with confrontations. I see people taking jabs at each other, and I tend to get caught in the middle a lot. I really don't want to be in the middle of anything, because my mind is always on my projects. What I view to be the bigger picture. My life typically revolves around trash epics in some way or another. The only thing that motivates me is how I can put my trash and horror fandom to use and make it mean something.



With all that said, I really wish people would get over themselves. If I'm being brought into it, that's some dumb shit, because I'm an introvert. I don't want to hang out with anybody. You guys are okay obviously, because we're not actually hanging out or anything. We're relaying opinions based on common interests among people who are supposed to have some sort of understanding among each other. Even when people troll, there's a code of conduct and liberties that can be taken. Trolls can be reported, and accounts can be blocked. But how can you handle that in a wild-west website where we're all about being sleazy?


I just told everyone on here that they're cool in my book, but there are times when I'm pitted up against certain parties. If I choose to side with Team A, then Team B puts a boycott on me. It's happened to me a lot on the site, now in my personal life. I fucking hate it. I find myself with friends one day, and enemies the other, and I don't understand how this type of thing happens. I still don't grasp why some of my favorite people on here choose to detest me on account of the people I associate myself with. I wish it would stop, but I strive to build something better in spite of all the shit that floods this place.

Are people that willing to let this niche community die off? What makes any one of us so bad? I could people out and roast them, but I wont do that. Well, maybe just a little...

Der and I have an understanding. We're dude-bros, and while I think that he does start some shit to get a rise out of people here, I think that only some people are offended, while others are mildly amused. Many of us have been using message boards for a chunk of our lives and are aware of their mechanics. Every board has its trolls, but there are work arounds.

Sometimes, you simply don't care where you are, so long as there are some honest types around. Some of our users understand this more than others. If you're one of the laid back ones who believes in keeping the discussion alive, then you get it. As long as we provide relevant content, we at least serve a purpose: to educate the world on exploitive horror trash. I wouldn't mind if Der refrained from personal insults and defamation claims, but I'm not a dictator and I have real world problems to worry about. I refuse to take sides because if you're giving me the ultimatum, then what kind of friend are you?


Snowy shouldn't speak for me on the shoutbox. I speak for myself, and only when I damn well mean to. There are always sides to any story, but personal drama should stay the fuck off of Trash Epics. If anyone wants to bring this shit up, then take a good hard look in the mirror and ask, "What for?"

Life's too short to waste it all arguing with goddamn internet trolls. I'm sorry if some of you feel that your TE neighbors are obnoxious tools, but don't put that shit on me. Figure out a better way to deal with it, because the block feature doesn't seem to phase anybody on here.


I don't imagine that Ballz would want to be brought into this either. I'll admit, a few of my core family/friends are users here, and they're flat-out incompatible with each other. I don't know how to handle it. I want my friends and family on here, but they clash a lot, and it puts me in a spin. In the end, I really only want to code stuff and talk about horror stuff, but we get sidetracked a lot. Sidetracked into me having to 'splain myself, and how I wish people wouldn't air their dirty laundry in my dirty shoutbox, but in the end... that's probably just some trash being epic.

Care to tell me how wrong I am? Or better yet, sidetrack this thread with a Family Guy type cutaway.