Terminator: Dark Fate!

It's hard to give my thoughts on this movie without spoiling anything, because this is one of those movies with important plot points. However, the trailer does give a lot of them away, or at least infer them, so there's not much to spoil. If you've watched the trailer, you can basically guess the exact plot progression of the movie because trailers these days are awfully in depth. They leave nothing to the imagination, and this movie is no exception.

For what it's worth, the movie entertained the shit out of me. Our main characters are Dani, Grace, and Sarah. Don't expect much Arnold in the movie, though. You'll go at least half of this movie before you see him, but when he comes in, you'll dance with joy. He's got a very interesting dynamic and character arc, but we'll skip that for now.

So after T2, the future was changed, but the effects still linger and have a definite impact on what's to come. Is Skynet a thing? Obviously, the future is still fucked if this shit is still happening, but it's a slightly different future we're involved with. Shit is arguably worse this time around, because they have the capabilities of sending back the Rev-9, which is a merger of a hollowed out endoskeleton and liquid metal exterior. Gabriel Luna does a good job rivaling the menacing T-1000 with his superior and seemingly indestructible model, and only our enhanced protagonist Grace has the capabilities to combat him, but not without her own limitations, because she is still mostly human after all.

The inclusion of Linda Hamilton solidifies this as a worthwhile entry. Sure, Arnold has been involved in all the movies to some extent, but not all of them felt like dignified entries. Linda has only been involved in the quality movies, and this is (as they say) the best sequel after T2. She's hardened, nihilistic, and a much needed grounding to make this film feel on par with the first two.

As you watch it, you'll see a few similarities in the plot structure, a few callbacks, and whole lot of action scenes. It'll never have the same impact as the first two movies, but for what it's worth... Terminator: Dark Fate is a very satisfying follow-up that we all longed for. I've basically waited my whole life for a decent sequel to T2, and it only took 'em about 30 years to get it right. Thank God James Cameron was there to oversee the production and help get the tone right, because the past few sequels really botched that.

Was it really better in the past?

I'm asking this question after I read a post of one of my facebook 'friends'. Well I have traded action figures with the guy a few times but I keep our relationship rather superficial.

He posted a list of MTV awards from 1994 and put the awards from this year next to it with the message "The world is coming to and end". Pretty clearly he isn't too happy about today's music. He's from 1980 so he was 14 years old and I guess at almost 40 they are still his heroes. Some of the names are: Aerosmith,Janet Jackson, Snoop Doggy Dog, Nirvana, Bruce Springsteen, The Rolling Stones. I don't know anyone from the new list but it's clear it's a new generation of singers/music bands.

I think everyone is free to continue loving the music from their youth until they die but comparing two pretty different periods with each other and of course thinking the old stuff is superior sounds like the typical middle aged sour puss who doesn't like that the world is changing. Music industry changes just like the movie industry, just like technology evolves all the time. It's called progress and evolution. He probably said as a teenager to his mom and pops not to be so old-fashioned. In a few years when his own son is a teenager he will probably laugh with the dinosaur's music his dad is listening to.

When he said he doesn't listen to the radio any more I told him there is enough opportunities to listen to retro music in specialized music channels or just stream or pop in an old school CD of your heroes, simple as that!


Is it part of midlife crisis venting about how everything was better in their youth? Well I can think about a dozen things that weren't too cool when being young: restricted freedom, having to go to school, having to study, not being able to buy what you liked etc

I have always been more of a movie than music person. I do prefer older movies yeah even movies froma period before I was born. But I'm not saying they ware better. I was a kid in the 80s and I can honestly say that period cranked out a lot of crappola too. It's rare but even I can find some real gems in recent movies. Ghostland and A Quiet Place are examples which were an instant buy for me after I had seen them.

I bet friend Bert (that's his name) is getting of on the 80s tribute movies which had been the shit the last decade. I'm thinking of
The House of the Devil (2009) from Ti West
The Final Girls (2015)
Summer of 84 (2018)
As 80s kid I was really underwhelmed. Sure they had 80s things but it was clearly made in modern times and te young people were not even born to know what the 80s were like. Definitely in the case of the Ti West flick recreating the past to every tiny detail is painfully uninteresting and tedious (to me anyway).


He definitely does love the old Star Wars and Ghostbusters. surely he will be in the group of complainers (usually guys 40+) how the new versions ruined it all without even haven seen those. Guess what you do have the liberty to not watch or even ignore it.


I say yes to evolution and creating a different style. You never know if you are missing out on something you might like. If I want to be nostalgic I put an on old song, movie or videogame.

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George "Buck" Flower in They Live

I am watching this for the billionth time right now, and thinking about his drifter/yuppie character.

What do you think about his scenes toward the beginning, at the worker's camp? He sits there watching TV, and talks about different conspiracy theories to explain the world. It's hard to know exactly what to make of this, considering what we know by the end of the movie.

Is he spreading disinformation? Maybe trying to lay a trap for possible malcontents, seeing if he can get them to rebel in some way so the cops can scoop them up and throw them in jail? The cops seem to corral HIM, when they come to the camp and walk through taking shitloads of prisoners. But, they were probably told by the chief aliens to just keep an eye out for him and take him somewhere safe, while they beat the living daylights out of everybody else.

Any thoughts about this? The scene where the cops run through the camp is a little confusing, I might have always missed something important.

Also, if anyone here ever invents a time machine, could you do me a favor and bring the woman on the giant Come to the Caribbean billboard (the billboard that changes to "Marry and Reproduce" when looked at through the glasses) back to our time? I want to marry her, but it would probably be more fun to be with her when she looked like she did on the billboard than to be with her as she probably looks now. K Thanks bye!

Eddie Murphy - Dolemite is My Name

Just wondering what Trash Epics in particular one member thinks of this new Dolemite movie.

Rate the horror from the last 3 years

Horror movies that have been released 2017-2019. I haven't seen any from 2019 yet so it will just be 2017 & 2018 from me

2017
Trauma: 7,5/10 (torture/revenge tends to either be too tame, uneventful or go over the top, this one has a great balance, with godo gore and yeah nudity which is becoming rare this days but Chile is thankfully not scrutinized by the censors)

Primal Rage: apparently forgot to rate it must be around 5/10 (no brain slasher and gore)

Errementari: 8/10 (I like fantasy and horror but the combination rarely works for me, here it does)

Ghost Stories: 1/10 (actually it is suprising in plot but I was annoyed with the dark images and slow pace)

Tigers are not Afraid: 6/10 (not really horror though even though it is labeled as such, a bit of a Pan's Labyrinth wannabe)
Revenge: 6/10 (on first view yeah but I bet I'll find the unrealistic events irritating on a revisit)

Mom and Dad: 5/10 (having Cage is a loss of points for me, entertaining but not memorable)

The Lodgers: 6,5/10 (with a more believable love story I would have liked it more, very atmospheric)

mother!: 2/10 (no comment I loathe this kind of symbolism and religious mumbo jumbo)

47 Meters down: 5/10 (again pop corn entertainment)

It comes at Night: 4/10 (I mostly forgot, slow and boring)

Stephanie: 5/10 (I saw little horror)
Two Pigeons: 4,5/10 (it's rather filthy what the hidden guy does but unfortunately it gets repetitive, takes too long to come to a conclusion with little story)

Get Out: 4/10 (sells of as original and financial support surely helped but the experienced horror fan should know better, the message pretty much fails for me)


2018
The Possession of Hannah Grace: 3/10 (well already said in Gymno's thread, poor man's Autopsy of Jane Doe)

Hell Fest: 4/10 (typical slasher in a theme park, very cliché)

Ghostland: 7/10 (I like this kind of stuff, mixing dream and reality, past and present, nice setting, nasty villains)

a Quiet Place: 8,5/10 (feels like a silent, great idea, great execution)

The Strangers: Part 2: 6/10 (entertaining even though Bailee Madison was the main reason I have watched it, not seen the first btw)

Annihilation: 4/10 (sounded interesting, group of women going on and adventure like in The Descent but what was this even about?)

Hereditary: 3/10 (thx to the early death of the most interesting character, cliché and big rip off from Rosemary's Baby and some other flicks, Satan is doomed with that successor if you ask me)
Mandy: 2/10 (I ask you how canone even get past the uneventful first hour and who wants to see Cage in his underwear or that sissy villain in his pee-pee?)
Summer of 84: 3/10 (the umpteenth 80s horror tribute yawn, not really interesting when you know the killer by the first minute)

2019
none yet hopefully there is some I can pick up from you?

Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals

Emanuelle is a recurring character in several Italian sexploitation films. I've only seen one of these movies before, and that was Women's Prison Massacre, which was to be the end of the Emanuelle series, and I didn't even know it was a thing at the time.

Basically, Emanuelle is a gorgeous slutty reporter played by Laura Gemser, and the first half of this movie is basically a soft-core porno. After a nurse gets her nipple bitten off by a cannibal patient, Emanuelle questions her whilst fingering her and gets news of a cannibal clan in the Amazon. Since she's a journalist, she doesn't need a good reason to snooping around anywhere she pleases so long as there's a story involved, and this story leads her to the jungles of the Amazon, because she isn't interested in African jungles or cannibals. Just the Amazon ones.

Before she goes, she needs to bang some dude first, just because. Then she gets there with her studly professor and assembles a team of explorers, who are there for a bodycount. Also, she bangs her professor while another girl masterbates to it.

At one point, she decides to bath near a waterfall with that same tramp from earlier and a monkey sneaks into their bags and smoke their cigarettes.

One of the ladies in the group lusts after a black man and sneaks away from her husband in the middle of the night to suck the guy's dick. The husband is mad jelly about this, but it doesn't seem to have any repercussions after the fact. Just more erotica for the hell of it.

About halfway through the movie, the cannibal plot kicks in and people are taken, sacrificed, gutted, and raped by those jungle knuckleheads and the gratuity is definitely there. However, Emanuelle's journalism endeavor takes a back seat to all the fun cannibal shennanigans until she outwits them all and the survivors live happily ever after... until the next movie.


Now, the idea of this as a series is pretty interesting. A sexy journalist gets herself into all sorts of taboos in each and every movie? Count me in. The series seems to go like this:

https://junkepics.com/film/?category=1&tags=emanuelle

Black Emanuelle (1975)
Emanuelle in Bangkok (1976)
Emanuelle in America (1977)
Emanuelle Across the World (1977)
Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals (1977)
Emanuelle and the White Slave Trade (1978)
Violence in a Women's Prison (1982)
Women's Prison Massacre (1983)

Notice how three of these movies came out in 1977? I wonder how many people she fucked that year. 🤔 Anybody got anything to say about this movie or any of the others?

Bloody Mallory (2002 - France)

When I watched this, my first thought was "What the hell is going on here?" After about ten minutes, I decided I was just going to believe what they are showing me. It's all true.
And it actually turned out to be not that bad, really. I still only gave it a 4, but that's at least two points better than I would have.

They could/should have been classics.

Do you ever wonder coming across an old horror movie which looks like original for the its time but you'll find out is is generally unknown? A movie that predates the better known classics by some years. usually they are obscure as they didn't really got much advertising or they got a limited release in theatre (perhaps not screening at all in the mainstream ones).


The ones that spring to mind:

Spider Baby (1967): Well it is said the filming started in 1964 which probably explains why it is rather tame for the time it was released. Possibly the first deranged family going with cannibalistic desires predating the Texas Chainsaw Massacre by quite a few years.

Olga's Girls: a series of movies in 1964-1965 starring Audrey Campbell as the warden of the bordello. It's comparable to the later WIP movies; There is quite a bit of torture around predating the Ilsa movies also by a good amount of years.

Flesh Eaters (1964): Of course there has been lots of sci-fi horror flicks and all kind of monster movies however this kind of flesh eating creatures devouring humans to the bone was at that point quite new. Add to this there is a few graphic scenes which could pass for gore. Not sure where I have read it but it might have been a finished product in 1962 so in that case it would predate Blood Feast of HG Lewis.

The Defilers (1965): It wasn't the first roughie as there was Scum of The Earth from HG Lewis 2 years earlier. Scum was tame on the sexual violence and had IIRC no nudity. Defilers on the other hand must have been the first where a couple of guys kidnap a girl and use her as sex slave. Another 5 years before we got to see Wes Craven's last house on the left and in the 60s there had been plenty of roughies who didn't really hold back on the sexual violence.

A Bay of Blood (1971): Well maybe not that obscure and there certainly where movies before that could be defines as slashers. However it did add some elements of the modern slashers like for example body count is more important than a profound story or character development, gratuitous nudity and of course POV kills.



Any others?

Best horror movies that are not part of a series

What is your top 10? The criteria is no remakes, no separate adaptations, no sequels, no prequel, not a prequel or sequel, etc.

1. The Man Whi Changed His Mind (1936)
2. Day of Wrath (1943)
3. The Unknown (1927)
4. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
5. The Face Behind the Mask (1941)
6. Horror Hotel (1960)
7. The Witch's Mirror (1962)
8. Onibana (1964)
9. The Beast with Five Fingers (1946)
10. Cat Girl (1957)

Fag Hag - A 1998 Tromasterpiece

Granted, I was pretty drunk when I was watching this, but it got me right from the beginning. While it was made in 1998, it looks like it was made in the 70s. Very stylistically influenced by John Waters, what with the LGBT prominent trash themes.

This movie is mostly just stupid dialogue between a dull girl striving to be a bigshot in a pageant and some gay dude who started the movie as some actor playing Jesus. They'll just ramble on about how to be successful for about an hour until they go into the pageant thingy and the movie ends with her singing a song about how she needs to take a piss. I laughed a lot at this shit.